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Post by stephen on Jan 14, 2012 20:47:14 GMT
At the moment I’m thinking an offline draft might be the best idea, but it would mean getting started on it earlier than usual (probably mid-February) and some owners may not be ready to start thinking about baseball with that much intensity just yet.
What do you all think?
An offline draft would take place on these boards with each owner making their pick and then emailing/PMing the next owner in the draft to let them know it’s their turn. There would be a time limit of something like 24 hours for each pick, though obviously in practice it would all go a lot quicker than that as if everyone took 24 hours to make each pick we’d still be drafting come the World Series. Hopefully a 30-round draft would be done in about a month. A live online draft, on the other hand, would take place some time towards the end of March when everyone’s free, with each owner having 90 seconds per pick and the draft taking something like 2-3 hours overall.
The advantage of an offline draft is that it's much more relaxed - there’s less stress involved with picking a player as you’re not under such a strict time limit. So you’re less likely to get into a panic and take, for example, John Lackey with your first overall pick. Also it means we wouldn't have to try and find a time that everyone's available.
The advantage of a live online draft would be that we’d all have a bit longer to prepare any rankings/projections, and there wouldn’t be any changes in player status between the beginning and end of the draft (e.g. injuries etc) as there might be if the draft took a month.
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Post by MotownLowdown on Jan 16, 2012 22:02:46 GMT
I think to make the draft the most fair, an online draft is the way to go since it is conducted in a few hours. It would suck to pick March 1 and then 2 weeks later during spring training, that player goes down due to injury. I'm intrigued by the idea, but I think its a bit unfair. In the future if this league is successful, I would suggest maybe have trades include draft picks as well.
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Post by stephen on Jan 16, 2012 23:46:05 GMT
First of all welcome to the forums, I'd been getting a bit lonely here all by myself!
Second of all, I see your point about players getting injured midway through the draft but on the flip-side players can get injured at any point during the season, and injuries can just as easily happen at the end of Spring Training after live drafts have been completed. Look at Adam Wainwright last year, for example. I'm sure there were many live-draft owners who got burned by that. Injuries are part of the game and are unpredictable by nature. Owners have to account for injury risks during the regular season so why not during Spring too?
My personal opinion is that offline drafts allow owners to put more care and consideration into their picks, resulting in teams they're going to be happier with compared to one where they might be rushed into certain picks. I'm sure you've all been in drafts where the player you're targeting gets taken with the pick before yours and you have to reassess your strategy and find another player, all against the clock.
I accept that having a later draft would be an advantage to owners but, for me, that's outweighed by the advantages of having an offline draft.
Anyway that's just my opinion. What does anyone else think?
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Post by MotownLowdown on Jan 17, 2012 13:37:06 GMT
I am intrigued by this type of draft, but have never participated in one. I wouldn't mind either way honestly. My biggest concern, aside from the injury risk, is making sure everyone picks on time. Maybe if their pick doesn't come in on time, they get the next player on the player rater that we all choose to use ahead of time.
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Post by stephen on Jan 18, 2012 15:01:43 GMT
Yeah that's my only slight concern, but I think if we implement a penalty system to deter people from taking too long with their picks then it should all run fairly smoothly and we'll get it done in plenty of time.
I'm not sure about using one overall ranking list as they all vary so much, but what I had been thinking is that if someone goes over the time limit they would be penalised by having to pick one place later in the next round. Then if they go over the limit again they would pick two places later in the next round, and so on.
But hopefully most picks would take a couple of hours at most and we'd get about a round done per day.
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Post by MotownLowdown on Jan 19, 2012 13:25:43 GMT
So if the pick comes in late, they are penalized by losing position in the subsequent round, but how will we choose their pick for the pick they are late for?
Are we thinking of doing this method this year now? Might be fun.
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Post by Slump Busters on Jan 19, 2012 21:54:58 GMT
What's up fellas, just joined up. I've done many of both types of draft, the biggest negative with online is trying to get all of the owners to agree to a day and time. Offline can really drag for those that like a lot of activity.
I would lean toward offline, but wouldnt mind online either if all owners could agree on day and time.
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Post by stephen on Jan 19, 2012 23:01:43 GMT
how will we choose their pick for the pick they are late for? Yeah I'm still trying to figure out the best way to deal with this. Maybe the auto-pick method you suggested would actually be the best way to go (in addition to the draft position penalty), otherwise we could find we're waiting days for someone to make their pick. Are we thinking of doing this method this year now? Yeah, unless anyone strongly objects, we'll aim to have an offline draft starting around mid February. I'll adjust the rules thread accordingly. the biggest negative with online is trying to get all of the owners to agree to a day and time. The other issue with an online draft is that half the owners in this league are in the UK and half are in the US, so obviously that makes it even harder to agree on a time. |
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Post by MotownLowdown on Jan 20, 2012 1:00:51 GMT
Alright, someone mentioned drafting within a month. Now I'm officially pumped for some fantasy baseball!! How many owners do we have as of now?
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Post by stephen on Jan 20, 2012 2:57:13 GMT
So far we've got 7 definites, and then there are 2 or 3 others who have indicated their interest but haven't confirmed yet. So there are still a few places to fill but I think as Spring Training gets closer interest will probably increase and we should be able to get all 12 teams filled in the next few weeks.
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skabusk13
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Post by skabusk13 on Jan 24, 2012 2:34:46 GMT
Hey guys. I am getting pumped too about fantasy baseball, finally. I don't really mind which way we go with the draft. Both ways has goods and bads. Online makes it hard to get everyone available for a few hours. Offline might be a little tough for some people, including me that have to actually work during the day.   Making a pick and keeping track of who gets picked will be kind of tough for me, but I work for the state of NY so I'm not too worried. |
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Post by anglophillie on Jan 24, 2012 12:17:39 GMT
If I have to express a preference it would be for an online draft.
If everyone is prepared 90 seconds per pick is ample time.
People work during the day and during the evenings there could be very good reasons ( life gets in the way sometimes) why you missed a slot for a pick.
Having some sort of auto draft system would obviously be vital,but penalising people for missing a pick would be wrong in my opinion.
It just seems pretty draconian to penalise a missed pick.
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Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2012 15:13:04 GMT
OK so it seems opinion is fairly divided on the whole online/offline debate so far. Hopefully we can get everyone else's views on the matter before we decide on anything. It just seems pretty draconian to penalise a missed pick. Yeah I think you might be right, maybe having an auto-pick system will be penalty enough. After all, it's not like anyone's going to be missing a pick on purpose. |
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Post by fantasynut03 on Jan 27, 2012 16:24:37 GMT
I like the off line method and have been in quite a few that lasted just 3 weeks. If everyone commits to checking the draft page twice a day( in the AM and PM) and we can all get on line one time on a weekend there should be no major problems. I also like auto pick if anyone misses a turn.  |
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Post by stephen on Jan 27, 2012 17:05:14 GMT
If everyone commits to checking the draft page twice a day( in the AM and PM) and we can all get on line one time on a weekend there should be no major problems. Yeah it should all work out fine as long as everyone keeps an eye on when their pick is going to be coming up. I think the key is to make sure you PM your pick to someone who can make it on your behalf if you know you're not going to be able to make it yourself. |
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Making a pick and keeping track of who gets picked will be kind of tough for me, but I work for the state of NY so I'm not too worried.
